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The Why and How of Estate Pipe Purchases

The Why and How of Estate Pipe Purchases   | Daily Reader

This article is revised and updated from the original published in October 2019.

When I first learned about estate pipes, back when I didn't know a Billiard from a bathysphere, I was horrified. Used pipes? Pipes that had spent years in the mouths of who knows who smoking who knows what while fraternizing with who knows who from who knows where? Why would these pipes have any value? Sanitizing a used pipe, I deduced, must require an hour in boiling water.

But I was willing, so when it was time for my second pipe, I bought an old crusty Mastercraft bent Apple for a dollar at an antique shop, and I boiled it for an hour.

I really did that. I wanted that pipe pristine and had no idea how to accomplish it. This was before internet newsgroups or online resources existed and, admittedly, before my cognitive functions had attained the partial maturity I now enjoy. My first computer and pipe club were years in the future and I was on my own in a wasteland of pipe ignorance. I didn't know anyone who smoked, so I decided to figure it out with my own brain.

But my brain failed me. That pipe came out of the water with a green, deformed stem and a splotchy exterior resembling a decomposing hagfish. The putrid leftover water saturated the kitchen with the stench of a saltwater swamp on fire at low tide. My wife insisted (the word "insisted" inadequately conveys her resolve) that I bury the pipe and cooking pot, bleach the kitchen, bathe in Pine-sol, and sleep in the garage.

I didn't tell her my first thought had been to run it through the dishwasher with the dinner dishes. I wonder what shallow grave I'd now occupy had I chosen speed wash.

Why Estates?

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Thus ended my promising career as a pipe restorer, but not my relationship with estate pipes. I eventually became friends with the owner of a local smoke shop. He had estate pipes coming and going, and he would buff and ream them and clean their interiors with rum, and I learned some basics. He told me that smoking estate pipes was no different than using silverware in restaurants. Thousands of people may have had that fork in their mouths, but it's perfectly clean when we need it. If an estate pipe is thoroughly cleaned and sanitized, why should I have any more issues with it than a fork?

Why Estate Pipes?

  • Lower cost than new
  • Pre-broken in
  • Unfamiliar brands tested more thriftily
  • Higher return when resold
  • Vintage pipe availability

But as has been established, I walk through life with an inferior brain. It did not fully accept the rationale and pursued only new pipes for quite a while. It wasn't until I became intrigued by artisan pipes that my interest in estates escalated, and that interest was based on economics. I couldn't justify the investment. The pipes I was most curious about were more costly than the under-$100 tier I'd maintained. Spending even $60 on a pipe back then seemed like ludicrous self-indulgence.

But I kept reading and hearing about magical smoking instruments carved by legendary artisans in the Halls of the Norse Gods, pipes that smoked and polished themselves and delivered flavor hitherto reserved for the palates of divine beings. But I wouldn't know if these pipes were worth the expense without buying them first.

Plunging Into Estates

It was only when a used Jess Chonowitsch bent Billiard showed up in the shop that I finally became an estate pipe enthusiast. It was irresistible and the price was, in retrospect, a bargain, though it seemed exorbitant to me at the time and the expenditure felt a little like jumping off a building. ("I'm definitely falling. Did I really just do that? Oh, look, the ground.") But the pipe resonated with me and I wanted to know if these fancy handmade pipes really smoked better than the factory pipes I'd been smoking. I wanted to know if it was worthwhile to purchase new pipes in more expensive ranges.

If this Chonowitsch smoked the same as I was already accustomed to, then this investment would save me from the wasted future purchases of expensive new artisan pipes. It would remove the curiosity that had been gnawing at my liver and chomping on my spleen. But if it smoked considerably better, I would have a new dimension of smoking to explore.

It didn't smoke itself, but it smoked dryer and cleaner, with better draw than I'd before experienced, and while it disappointingly did require occasional cleaning, I was convinced. It smoked better than my other pipes and I didn't know why. What was happening here? It was a transformational riddle that would eventually lead me to a career exploring and writing about pipes.

I wanted to know if these fancy handmade pipes really smoked better than the factory pipes I'd been smoking.

Now I was satisfied only with pipes I couldn't afford. Nice work, me.

But estate pipes were my salvation. I could purchase high-quality, handmade pipes at terrific savings if I purchased them used, and besides, some pipes are simply not available new. Vintage, discontinued pipe brands can be had only as estates, and popular artisans often have long waiting lists. Furthermore, if I buy a new pipe, smoke it, and don't like it, I can sell that pipe for only about 30-50% of what I paid. But if I buy an estate pipe and don't like it, I can recoup a higher percentage of my investment, and if some time has passed, sometimes more than my original cost.

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Other Considerations

There are advantages other than price. Estate pipes are already broken in, which I appreciate, though most artisan pipes require little to no break-in. However, some pipes may maintain the ghost of a previous blend from a previous owner. In my experience, those ghosts are easy to smoke through, except for Erinmore, of course, the most wretched and despicable tobacco in existence, suitable only for compost and government black-site torture sessions. Shane Ireland here at Smokingpipes likes Erinmore, and I urge him to buy it all as a public service. Maybe you have your own Erinmore-like blend that would be unacceptable if ghosting a pipe. I had an estate pipe once whose Erinmore ghost haunted it for a year until, in revenge, I repeatedly ran over it with the lawnmower.

If you're an Erinmore fan, that's great, unless you want me to smoke some. I'd rather listen to lawn furniture grinding through a wood chipper as I prepare my overdue taxes while staked to an anthill with jalapeño juice in my eyes.

By the way, we have terrific prices on Erinmore, so stock up now.

I could purchase high-quality, handmade pipes at terrific savings if I purchased them used

Another consideration is the previous owner's reason for selling a pipe, which is impossible to determine unless it's purchased directly and there's an opportunity to ask. Even so, someone selling a pipe may be reluctant to reveal that it doesn't smoke well. But even if that is the primary reason for the sale, it won't necessarily be a problem. I've sold pipes that didn't smoke well for me, but the new owners found them wonderful. We all load a pipe and tamp it differently, smoke different tobaccos at different humidity levels, with different cuts and a different smoking cadence. What smokes great for me may be vile for you, and what smokes like a bar of soap for me may be among the most sublime pipes you've experienced. There are too many variables for objective assessment.

Other Considerations:

  • Possible ghosting
  • Unknown pipe history
  • Unknown pipe performance
  • Tastes change
  • Restoration is sometimes necessary
  • Replacement stems are sometimes unspecified

Just as often, though, pipe smokers rotate pipes through their collections simply because their tastes change, and it's nice to have an avenue for exchanging those pipes as our interests evolve. My first-generation pipe collection included only bent pipes, and the more wildly and exotically carved, the better. I sold those pipes as my interests shifted with the years; now my collection has only a few bent pipes while the rest are straight Billiards, Brandys, Apples, Lovats, Canadians ... except for my Peterson System pipes, everything is a straight, traditional shape. My collection's evolution would be much slower if not impossible without an active estate market.

For those collections that have themes, estate pipes are often the best way to fill them. Pre-transition Barlings, those made when the Barling family owned and oversaw manufacturing, are fantastic pipes, but they can't be found new, because that era ended on October 3, 1960, when the family sold the business. If you want to collect pre-transition Barlings, estates are your only recourse. If you collect Bulldogs from French manufacturers, paneled Dunhill Shells, smooth Billiards, sandblasted Blowfish, pipes made in your birth year, or Cavaliers with filigree silver bands and portraits of Civil War generals carved on the bowls, the estate market will be the best source.

Where to Find Estates

Once I'd established that estate pipes are wonderful opportunities rather than repulsive, recycled rubbish, my purchasing power doubled. However, I soon learned that bargain antique shop pipes and, later, eBay purchases, are risky. There are eBay sellers with excellent reputations who specialize in pipes, and they're fine, but eBay also hosts every oxidized, spider-infested pipe unearthed in an old barn, cellar, or attic. Vendors who don't know pipes should probably be avoided, because they can't answer condition questions intelligently. They aren't going to ream the pipe and check for char because they don't know how to ream a pipe or what char looks like. They've photographed a bent pipe with the stem upside down, for heaven's sake; they can't tell you if the smoke channel is well aligned or if the slot has been funneled.

I've sold pipes that didn't smoke well for me, but the new owners found them wonderful

There were reputable outlets for estates in my early smoking years though, and I found them. Barry Levin was sending out photo prints of estate pipes, a couple of dozen per photo, and those who received them would get out magnifying glasses and examine the candidates, then try for our first, second, third, and fourth choices, and hope one of them was still available. They were good pipes, refurbished by J.T. Cooke, and Barry's mailer was a game changer. Steve Leaders of Texas was also good, and his mailers of estates were equally enticing.

Unfortunately, Barry passed, too young and too unexpectedly. But the internet was beginning to limp along by then, and pipes gradually came online. It was the Wild West for a time, figuring out who could run an estate pipe business efficiently and who couldn't, who could be trusted, who cleaned and assessed pipes before sale, and who left them as-is.

Since you're reading these words online, I presume you know about current online resources. It's a little more sophisticated now, with reputable vendors showcasing their wares with photos, measurements, weights, brand histories, and descriptions. In 2000, Sykes Wilford launched Smokingpipes and revolutionized online pipe sales with an art-appreciation approach and by providing images and prose that approximated in-person sales, furnishing pipe smokers with necessary information without their physically holding a pipe. Many at that time said it couldn't be done, that no one would buy a pipe they hadn't personally seen and held. That's arguably still the best dynamic for pipe purchases, but the Smokingpipes model was close, and people responded, including me, because it made pipes available that couldn't be found locally.

We also have the Pipe Locator, a nifty tool for browsing available pipes on the Smokingpipes site. It's linked in a drop-down menu under "Pipes." There are thousands of pipes on the site, so browsing them can be intimidating, but with the Pipe Locator, you can look for new or estate pipes, in particular finishes or shapes, by particular makers or groups of makers, by country, size, weight, whatever your individual preferences may be. I've added a few pipes to my collection by playing around with the Pipe Locator and finding pieces I didn't know were there.

What to Look For

When buying estates, it's helpful to know what you're buying. Do a little research, see what the brand in the same finish is selling for elsewhere online, get an idea of the pipe's value, and if it's reasonable, buy it. Avoid eBay bidding wars; they are often accompanied by regret. There will be other pipes.

I soon learned that bargain antique shop pipes and, later, eBay purchases, are risky

Find trustworthy online sources. With the number of pipe forums at our disposal, there are always fellow pipe smokers who will make personal recommendations, and it's relatively easy to build a list of reputable estate vendors. Some sell pipes in the same condition they receive them; some refurbish them. However, things get complicated again at this stage, because different businesses prepare their pipes differently. We've described our process here: maintaining the integrity of the pipe while thoroughly cleaning it without heroic measures that may devalue the piece. But some employ measures that collectors avoid, such as "topping" a pipe; that is, sanding the rim down to remove char and refinishing it. That may be fine for some, but it is not a way to maintain value. Refinishing, sanding out the original tobacco chamber, re-coating it, and over-buffing the stem are all hazards.

Watch also for replacement stems on estate pipes, which can devalue a pipe. It's an unusual find, but sometimes a replacement stem can be superior to its original. I've had new stems made for relatively inexpensive pipes and transformed them into excellent smokers — the mystery of a poor-smoking pipe is often solved with a new stem.

In the artisan tiers, though, the very best replacement stem for maintaining value is one made by the original carver of the pipe. For cheaper pipes, modified production stems are used as replacements, and they may not permit a pipe to perform at its maximum potential. It's always best to have the original stem in case of resale, though, even when we have a superior new stem for smoking.

All of that is immaterial if what you're looking for is a camping or fishing pipe you won't cry over when a bear eats it. The estate market is particularly exciting for these applications. Workhorse estate pipes can be almost affordably disposable.

there are always fellow pipe smokers who will make personal recommendations

It's important that we buy what we like. Some people derive pleasure from filling a missing category in their collections; some prefer individual makers, and some prefer specific shapes or finishes or years of manufacture. We each decide for ourselves, and ultimately I determined that I would keep only those pipes that smoked great (except for a few with sentimental value). I spent too much money and time trying to fill out a theme for my collection. I collected only Horns for a while, but found I don't like Horns and the shape is not efficient for me. Then I tried collecting Lovats in every brand I could find, but even while I was going to great trouble for pipes I needed, I wasn't enjoying them all that much, and I was still attracted to variants like Canadians and Billiards.

So buy what's personally appealing. Chances are good that we'll end up selling pipes that have been acquired only to represent some arbitrary collection rubric. Second, spend what you can afford. If you're like me, any attempt at finding less expensive options has resulted in more expense than it could have been. When I've fallen in love with a pipe but decided to purchase something similar but less expensive, I have not removed that original pipe from my thoughts. It has pursued me through my dreams and waking hours until I've relented and purchased it, now ending up with two pipes, one that I wanted and one that doesn't compete well with the original.

I've had particular shapes by Lars Ivarsson and Jess Chonowitsch replicated by other pipe makers I greatly admire, because I loved the shapes but the attainment of the originals was impossible because of price and availability. While I enjoyed those replacement pipes for a time, they never measured up to my mental image, and I eventually let them go. Now, if I can justify a pipe that's captured my attention, that's the one I buy, and if I can't afford it, I don't try to find a substitute. There are no substitutes. Had I accepted that fact 20 years ago, I could have accrued significant compound interest. However, that's my own psychology fumbling about; it may indeed be the best strategy for others.

If you've avoided estate pipes because of yuckiness factors, you may be surprised at how pristine they are when refurbished by an experienced restorer. They're clean, and they can appear brand new, especially if their original condition is good. Estate pipes stretch our spending potential, bringing pipes within reach that may not be affordable when new. Instead of spending thousands of dollars for all the pipes you become curious about, you can spend half that for used versions and satisfy your curiosity without transferring your kid from Cornell University to Blanche's Route 4 School of Hairdressing and Tractor Repair. There are amazing pipes on the estate market, and they keep appearing, exciting pieces showing up all the time, especially here at Smokingpipes, where we list hundreds of fresh estates every month and maintain a secure commitment to the estate pipes that are such an enormous benefit to our hobby.

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Comments

  • james keast on October 19, 2019

    Wonderful! Even if I didn't smoke pipes for the last 60 years, the article had me laughing til my eyes watered. I had to set my pipe down and read some of it out loud to my non-smoking wife. Thank you.

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  • Tom Johnson on October 19, 2019

    Chuck Stanion is America's 21st century Mark Twain of pipe and tobacco literature. Praises to SPC for
    making this man available to pipe smokers in the free world.

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  • Serge on October 20, 2019

    Really enjoyed the read. Thanks!

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  • Dan on October 20, 2019

    I always look forward to reading Chuck’s articles, both informative and entertaining. I almost spit out my tea at a couple points—hilarious! Keep ‘em coming guys!

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  • Paul Schmolke on October 20, 2019

    Just purchased a Peterson Waterford XL22 last evening from SPC, the only Peterson I own without a metal band. My other two XL22’s smoke great...they were new when I got them, the Waterford isn’t.

    It’s very reassuring to read things by an experienced old timer that equal my personal experiences and adventures. SPC has become my sole source for Estate Pipes. I have acquired several, mostly Petersons. I’ve never been unhappy with any of them. I’ve recently discovered that if I’ve found one I like, don’t vacillate, buy it...I’ve lost a few to other savvy buyers over my own indecision.

    Nice piece you’ve written here.

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  • Howard R. Houck on October 20, 2019

    Informative, interesting, entertaining. And I certainly share your opinion of Erinmore.

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  • Dr. Bob on October 20, 2019

    Well researched and written, this article was a delight to read...twice. As a professor of religion at Georgia State, and pipe smoker/enjoy-er sine age seventeen you earned a solid "A." Keep writing.

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  • Andy Olcott on October 20, 2019

    Nice, after reading this I went and pulled the trigger on that 1964 Dunhill Tanshell I was contemplating. If my wife asks, I'm telling her Chuck told me to just pull the trigger rather than torture myself with regret :).

    Great read!

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  • Joe Thornton on October 20, 2019

    What a talent Chuck has! This story was wonderful reading. Thanks so much!

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  • Maxwell Eaton on October 20, 2019

    Great write. Thank you. Very informative. I always look at the recent estates for sale and occasionally purchase one. This article excited me and I too, may “pull the trigger” more often and go estate.

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  • KevinM on October 20, 2019

    An interesting thing about the estate pipe market is it’s incredible scope. Yes, you can find that coveted gem by a famous carver for a (relatively) bargain price, but you can also find plenty of Petes, Savs and Brigham’s at very affordable prices. I suspect most estate pipes are on the market, because the owner’s tastes change or the owner just felt the need of a bit of novelty. I’ve bought lots of estate pipes, but have NEVER had the feeling, “Whew, I see why the previous guy unloaded this one!” Nice article. Thanks.

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    • Filippuneddu on March 23, 2025

      I wish my experience with estate pipes was the same as yours. I’ve only bought two estate pipes in my life, neither from SPC: a Dunhill Bruyere and a Savinelli Autograph Grade 4. Both tasted horrible, leaving me with no doubt why the previous owner traded them in. Which is what I did.

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  • William Griggers on October 20, 2019

    Great! Funny but full of wisdom. I want more.

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  • Anthony P. on October 20, 2019

    Very interesting, informative and humorous article. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks!

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  • Andy Camire on October 20, 2019

    Another great article as always. Chuck, thanks for keeping us focused on pipes and helping us spend our hard earned $$$. I've experienced just about everything you mention here and the affordability of estate pipes has definitely widened my knowledge and palate. As a previous message stated, You are America's 21st Century Mark Twain of pipe and tobacco literature. Please continue to keep us smiling with your great writing.

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  • Tim Loeb on October 20, 2019

    What's left to say about the quality (and usually humor) of Chuck's writing? The comment above comparing him to Twain is apt; he shines with pieces on everything from the ridiculous (the 10 Tobys) to the sublime (Einstein) and much in between. And it doesn't get much better than laughing while you're learning: Thanks, Chuck!

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  • Don Thayer on October 20, 2019

    What! pipes aren't dishwasher safe?
    Another consideration concerning estate pipes is that occasionally you find a excellent pipe from a manufacturer that no longer exists. I recently purchased a large "Charatan's Make" from smokingpipes. I have two others I bought in the 1970's and really like these pipes.

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  • nosferatu on October 20, 2019

    The part talking about not choosing a substitute really hit home for me. I'd been on the lookout for a Morgan Bones Oom Paul and couldn't find one. I ended up buying an estate Savinelli 614 through you all and then BAM!! I got the Bones in a trade. Within two weeks, I'd sent the Savinelli back to you all for trade credit 😂

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  • Jon DeCles on October 21, 2019

    I have done the same thing of reading Chuck's columns out loud to anybody in my family near enough to listen. In a family of writers, Chuck's sheer writing talent is always a treat. And he is pretty smart as well as funny.

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  • James Arrington on October 21, 2019

    Great article !
    In addition to the fine estates here, I personally recommend the ineffable Marty Pulvers, who has many wonderful surprises.

    pulverspriorbriar.com

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  • David Zembo on October 23, 2019

    Thanks, Chuck. Your anxiously awaited articles are to be sipped slowly for maximum enjoyment of every insightful and clever nuance offered.

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  • John P on December 8, 2019

    If any of you see any pipes made by Frank Augsberger, open up your wallet. Frank died very young and what he made was quite beautiful and innovative. Here is an article I added to in Pipedia from my personal experiences with this young man.
    https://pipedia.org/wiki/Augsberger

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  • Suzanne Troutman on June 6, 2020

    I throughly enjoyed your article and appreciated the information. My Dad passed away in 2018. He loved smoking his pipe, and I loved the smell. He started smoking a pipe in the early 50s. He collected and enjoyed various pipes over the past 60 years. There are about 30 pipes in the collection. A few I will keep with fond memories, but I would like the rest to go to a good home. Glad to hear that there is a market for these treasures!

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  • Lawrence Decker on August 8, 2024

    I have pipes I want to sell a lot of Denmark Freehands.

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  • Gary S. on March 22, 2025

    Great article! Love my Smokingpipes estates. No boiling, bleach and pine-sol needed. LOL

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  • Amber on March 22, 2025

    Beautiful! I believe I read this previously, but I feel it's important because my partner Dominic and I have learned and grown so much! Thanks for the info SmokingPipes especially Chuck! We were able to get our very first Dunhill HT XL
    So excited for the opportunity to finally know what we want and how to accomplish that!

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  • Astrocomical on March 23, 2025

    Not for me. Bought one and realized why it was sold. Looked nice but drain wise it was not so good. Whenever I smoke it I have to remind myself it gets wet. I even sold my Peterson pipe but never seen it offered. Seems Smoking Pipes took it and I regret selling it. Lost interest in Estate Pipes after.

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  • Joseph Kirkland on March 23, 2025

    Chuck, another informative article. Excellent advice. Keep up the fine work.

    I’ve been fortunate in collecting certain estate pipes. Like you, I have made some mistakes.

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  • Stan on March 23, 2025

    Another great article by Chuck

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  • BobM on March 27, 2025

    A fun read and packed with useful information. As a young pipe smoker (50 years ago) I approached Estate Pipes with some trepidation because the word "Estate" triggered the weird thought of smoking some dead guy's pipe. Again, nice article!!

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