Customer Reviews (71 Total)
Any Way You Slice It, Sutliff Virginia Slices Is Pretty Darn Good!
April 04, 2018
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
I am definitely a Virginia and Va/Per lover. I have recently been having an affair with burley, particularly the lighter, OTC blends. I've come to like most burley-based blends very much. I guess my tastes in pipe tobacco are fairly eclectic: I also ... Read More
like light English blends and certain other latakia blends - long as they aren't "lat bombs". But I find myself always coming back to Virginia and Va/Per blends.
So, after the fling with burley, I wanted to get several good quality Virginia-Va/Per blends for a nice change. Sutliff's Virginia Slices was one of them. I must say that the presentation is very interesting and attractive. These slices are cut considerably longer than most other flakes I've seen. I read that this is a European style. These slices rub out pretty easily, but my preferred method of flake preparation is a variation of "fold & stuff" I think of as "wad & stuff". So, I pulled a slice into a shorter section, then took a bit and simply wadded the tobacco into a ball and stuffed it into the bowl of my pipe. I repeated until the bowl was full. Bag note: smells like fresh, good ole tobacco. I couldn't detect a topping. This tobacco lights and burns readily to a fine, gray-white ash, and very few re-lights required. As with other Virginia blends, smoke this slowly to get the most flavor. Sip it! The smoke was cool and lasted a long time. Now, I usually have difficulty tasting the citrus notes everyone describes with Va blends. Plenty of grass and hay and all that, but citrus always seems to elude me. But with this blend, I was able to detect it! That sorta citrusy taste was subtle and would shy away whenever I tried to reach for it, but I was definitely getting it with this blend. Some earthiness in there, too, but lots of good, solid tobacco taste. Most Virginias leave a good after-taste for me, and Virginia Slices is no exception. It is also not hard on the tongue provided you don't huff n puff it. My favorite straight Virginia is G.L. Pease "Union Square"; Virginia Slices isn't going to beat it, in my opinion. But, just the same, this blend is tasty. Yes, it is a basic tobacco that is one- maybe two-dimensional. But, sometimes that's what is needed. This blend is good, especially for the price. I recommend it! Read Less
Just Virginia,
September 05, 2018
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
This is a pure flue cured Virginia flake that comes in long strips. Nothing fancy here. Taste is pure and satisfying. The added sweetness( if there is one), never goes forward of the leaf. A very pleasant Virginia flake. My wife says it smells like I... Read More
’ve been smoking cigarettes after I smoke it. Read Less
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
初尝有些青草气息，不知是草调配问题还是保存问题，很快这种味道就消失了，斗温容易控制，有些甜，味道可以接受，烟气醇香感还可以
Wait for best results
April 20, 2018
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
This is a decent Virginia when fresh but definitely needs some age to really shine. When its fresh it just tastes a little green and immature. Has some decent sweetness and hay flavors. Very earthy for a bright straight Virginia. I usually let mine s... Read More
it for a few months before i am really able to fully enjoy it. Very excited to see how this is after a few years. Read Less
What a bargain!
December 31, 2017
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
This is an excellent bulk flake. Smooth, burns well. Slightly sweet, with a hay and citrus flavor. I've discovered that if you add a pinch of burley to this, I used some Prince Albert, it really adds a whole new dimension to it. At this price, give ... Read More
it a try... Read Less
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
有青草味，烟叶偏干，嘴里有辛辣感，稍微有点劲，有些甜味清香味。抽完了短时间内不太想来第二斗
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
闻着清香喊，慢慢燃起来，淡淡清香但感觉差一丝，醇厚感也有但感觉差一丝，半斗下来有层次感到感觉总是差点东西，个人认为是可有可无的草
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
有V草所有的特征但没豪海香
뒷맛이 다소개운치못한
September 14, 2019
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
분명담백하고 특유의 막수확한 버지니아의 말린과일향은 분명 매혹적이다 피우면서 즐기는맘은 늘좋다 하지만 갈수록 뒷맛이개운치못한건 나만의기분인가?! 사무엘사의 버지니아보다는 뒷맛이 살짝텁텁하다 여느이는 이맛이 이회사의 한계라고말하더라 이에동의한다
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
I only bought an ounce to try it. I should’ve bought a pound.
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
好烟，纯正自然干净的烟雾随时可以享用。
Great "Tangy" taste
March 23, 2023
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Nice "Orlik Golden Slice" taste for a bulk blind.
Not Good平淡
September 18, 2022
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
过于平淡，算不上好，且无特色。有Virginia的气味却没有甜香。Not good enough，lack flavor
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
听一个斗友说，507的鸡草还是不错的，有陈年的潜力，但要做好打持久战的准备。哈哈哈😂
Good, not great.
March 09, 2022
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Good Virginia, topping is mildly detectable blends in well with the tobacco. It’s a good smoke not complicated but nothing to get overly excited about like some people do.
very pleasant virgnia
January 25, 2022
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
though the mfg description did not indicate any there seemed to be the slightest hint of a topping in the bag note which also came through very lightly in the smoke, it was not a distraction to the overall enjoyment of the blend. i found this to be v... Read More
ery pleasant straight Virginia tobacco, it is a long cut flake that rubs out and packs easily. the flavor is typical of medium sugar level Virginia, it does require several swipes with a pipe cleaner in the course of a bowl to keep moisture down but it burns to a nice ash without any relight required. no tongue bite and a fair aftertaste. room note is okay. could easily be an all day smoke. has some hay/grass/maltiness notes. it is offered in bulk and seems to be pretty readily available (unlike many other favorite Va. and Va/Per blends right now). if you are looking for a nice, straight forward, affordable, available Va. blend to try, i would suggest this. Read Less
High quality to price ratio
January 01, 2022
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
For the price, 507c offers an amazing value for money for those looking for a more mature virginia. Malty, earthy and sweet, this is my go-to, no-fuss choice for any occasion. Oh and after about a year in the cellar, the flavor is significantly fulle... Read More
r and I'd give it a full 5 stars then. Read Less
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
新草会有很大的青气 斗温高容易灼舌 放置三年后变化很大 各种不好的因素渐渐退去之后口味越来越好 细细品酌会感觉到很大的升华 是一款需要时间才能回馈的草
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
一款口粮草
Nice grassy Virginas - comes in under PS LTF or LNF or SG FVF
June 30, 2018
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
[Tin/Bag - Little old leather with a little smokiness. Sliiiight turpentine or faint lacquer at just a point for a hint. Again some smokiness. Some middle brown sugar with deeper sweetness. Long stranded flakes. Easy to fold and stuff or rub out... Read More
as desired. Good moisture, little to no dry time needed.]
It's a good one. Hay, yellow grass. Similar to PS LTF or maybe PS LNF. Good grass/hay. Tiny hint of aromaticness, especially on a retro (I prefer PS LNF). Go with price between LNF/LTF or this? Apparently others see an aromatic top too. PG humectant present too some... go for LNF instead. Good middle yellow grass. Get some sweetness. Like it more than Newminster 400 Superior Navy Flake for slightly more grassiness, but like Newminster SNF much more for the interesting and lighter characteristics.
Behaves decently throughout the bowl with flavor to the end. Did leave some moisture and dottle that I didn't want to steam through as some bite could have been there. Could be a good Virginia smoke any time of day for sure.
(3 month age) Not as rich or as much sweetness or well developed as LNF, a little more cardboardy or dried brown grassiness. ◄7-7.4/10✠Skulls► Read Less
Straight Virginia flake in bulk!
December 21, 2017
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Firstly, with all tobacco reviews, your milage may vary! I have been really quite impressed with how delicious this tobacco is. And you cannot beat the price! The tobacco comes in a long and quite thin flake form and at the perfect moisture content f... Read More
or smoking and aging. The say there is an aromatic top note, but it is undetectable by my tastes. Everything about this tobacco speaks quality, the presentation, the aroma, how easy it is to work with - it's just what I was looking for, a straight Virginia flake in bulk that seems to be readily available. Sutliff is mostly known for aromatic blends that are either love or hate... this one will probably be love from the first light. I'm one who enjoys a lot of nicotine, and although other reviews state that this is mild, I didn't feel it was lacking anything. This is a winner, a beautiful tobacco that is delicious new and will also improve with age. Read Less
.....wow
October 25, 2016
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
i think...this is ....good...really good.....!!
받아놓고 딴거 태우다가 뒤늦게 태워보고 깜짝 놀랐습니다. 정말 잔잔,담백함이 뭔지 보여주는 담배네요.
숙성이 된건지 어쩐건지 사진보다 훨씬 어둡습니다.
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
味道还不错，量大价优
新草也能抽比较淡，用玉米斗抽吧
March 28, 2023
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
新草淡，但裁切的可以，这么便宜，建议用玉米斗抽，不要揉散，折叠法瓶塞装斗。不知道养两年怎么样？
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
新草一股青草味。感觉不如707
Good flavor and spice
March 16, 2023
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Very flavorful - as flakes tend to be. No complaints.
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
昨天抽的红法官，收到这个直接来了一斗还以为装错了，味道像极了，不过尾段很大不同
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
常规V草香，没啥甜度，暂时就抽出这点
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
到了之后直接抽了一斗，确实开端淡淡的青草问道，后续出甜，斗温好控，过鼻微微刺激，需要冷火慢吸！同时感觉和PS400基本一致。
Classic VA tonacco
January 26, 2023
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Sutliff does it again, with great tobacco!
A classic old fashioned VA flake, with natural sweetness, smoked slowly, you will get all the pleasant nuances of flavors, that Virginia tobacco provides. A domestic USA treasure!
What is the fuss about?
January 07, 2023
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Nah... hot burning, tongue biting stuff. One hot mess to smoke. I better stick to my Balkan mixes. There is some bready aroma in the mix, but the tongue torture will not let you enjoy that.
good to go.
January 07, 2023
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Jar note of pine or terpenes, spices, and mildly sweet fruit. Tobacco is a yellowish-brown and tan marbled flake, rubs our easily. Moisture content is on the high side, may need to be dried a bit. Burns slow with few relights. The strength is mild to... Read More
medium and nic is mild to medium. No flavoring detected. Taste is mild to medium and consistent, with notes of wood, spice, grassy, earth, floral, hay, citrus, dry, bitter, zest, sour vegetation, orange peel, a mild sour lemon background note, and a peppery retro. Room note is pleasant to tolerable, and aftertaste is great. Read Less
Bready Sweet Goodness
January 02, 2023
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Upon first smoke this became a new absolute favorite. The flavor is not "complex", but wonderful in its simplicity. It has an amazing aroma from the jar. The flavor is quite similar to the smell; fresh bready, zesty and sweet, a little bit ... Read More
of dried fruit flavor. But it smokes smooooth, and cool. Never had tongue bite and smoking it is just effortless, no rough edges at all. Could smoke this all day. Another rec is Newminister No.400 Superior Navy Flake. They are quite similar and delicious, this one being smoother IMO but the aroma of No.400 is unrivaled Read Less
微甜、可做口粮
December 06, 2022
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
这款草，味道比较清淡，味道很像蓝绞盘，很好着，变化还是可疑的，前段微甜，价格实惠，可以考虑作为口粮草。
one of the best Virginias
November 19, 2022
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
I keep the bulk I ordered in Jan 2021 for special occasions, although I would like to smoke it almost every day It has some fans here in Germany, but the tax restrictions make it a little treasure. What is that topping? It is sweet, but tastes very ... Read More
natural. Great stuff. Burns well and isn't strong. I recommend it for flake beginners and every time of day. Read Less
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Never thought I'd best Newminster #400. But here it is. Very pleasing right out of the bag. Heavier cut than 400. I would imagine a bit of age will soften the mild sharpness. Bready and bright.
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
长切片类型的v草，草的裁切不错没有太多的叶梗，看着比较舒服，抽吸体验也可以，烟气香甜但个人觉得略淡，中后段味道会越来越淡，可以适量囤货期待陈年。
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
刚买来抽了几次，轻微有点咬舌感。存放了半年，开罐味道淡淡的甜味。咬舌感也随之消失。非常不错！
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
本人抽红法基本不咬舌，但是抽这个用陶土斗+大气室依然咬舌，并且是去年买的，已经陈一年了。不过味道尚可。作为调剂还是不错的。
Very good
December 27, 2021
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
More than what I expected
还可以，没那么不堪
December 19, 2021
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
感觉还可以，中规中矩，适合做口粮，价格在这呢，毕竟其他的价格都涨得厉害。
Decent stuff
November 02, 2021
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
The flakes are long (at least six inches) and somewhat "ropey." I had to carefully fold them over to get them in the Mason jar, where they fell apart into chunks and long shards. This made me think they were well-aged. They were also much darker than... Read More
the photo above. It takes about three to four hours for them to dry out, and with a quick rub they are ready for the bowl. But it's hard to get this stuff to pack tight, and as a result, if you puff rather than sip, it will burn fast and get hot quickly. There is an initial Virginia sweetness for the first third of the bowl, but then that disappears. The room note is surprisingly nice, a heady, spicey, peppery affair. Read Less
Used for Blending
September 08, 2021
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Nice aroma, moist, prefer drier blends, so i let it sit out for a few hours before using. Mix and blend with Kendal Gold Shag after drying out, had interesting results for me.
Nice VA with mild vanilla
July 10, 2021
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Wasn't expecting much from this flake, but I really like it. Good flavor, cool smoking, and tasty. Has a mild added vanilla flavor to it that combines with the natural sweetness of the VA. Might be adding a pound to my next order.
Wonderful, clean Virginia flake
April 01, 2021
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
This is really a lovely smoke, and great for those of us who like matured Virginia's that don't cost an arm and a leg. At the price, it is a good substitute for Capstan Blue, I think, though not as deep a flavor. But it's a great flake at any price, ... Read More
and I will keep it in regular rotation. Read Less
great sweet & sour
February 15, 2021
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
I love the sweet & sour taste. The tin note reminds me the hawthorn. The taste is good and nice cool burn and white ash. A nice tobacco even without considering the price. With the bargain price, I stored a pound of it.
我很喜欢这个酸甜味的草。闻起来像是山楂味。 味道很好... Read More
，斗温低，白烟灰。就算不考虑价格也是很好的草。考虑到它便宜的价格，我屯了一磅。 Read Less
Good Starter Virginia
January 29, 2021
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
If you are an aromatic smoker and want to venture into the world of Virginias, then this is the tobacco for you. It is mild, sweet and citrusy, with a very subtle taste of vanilla. Smoke it slow and you won't be disappointed. For even better flavo... Read More
r, age it for at least 6 months. Happy Puffing! Read Less
Old treat for a New World
November 26, 2020
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Virginia flake tobacco that burns slow, improves with age, naturally sweet and tangy and enjoyed slowly. Old fashioned tobacco for a modern world. Builds in flavor.
Best sipped slowly.
Made from the best tobacco in the U.S.A.
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
I like flake tobacco, especially from g&h, newminister, and comoy. This is a nice flake but it just doesn't have enough flavor for me. I'm going to jar it up for awhile and try it again after some months.
only 3.79 stars???
February 01, 2020
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Ive heard of this blend of Sargent Savinelli and i gave a half smile go (im a die hard Burley guy)and man i was in for a surprize .Awesome zesty Virginias ,i dont really sense any topping also very taste consistent slow burning right to the white as... Read More
h.Being immune to tongue bite i cant tell that it has any.Sutliff lately is coming strong ,very well done Sutliff i already ordered more because whoever taste it will order more too and soon it will be out of stock .No kidding this is a really boom and i bet that it will be so popular like the 6,5 Creedmore amongst hunters. Read Less
A good, basic Virginia
November 14, 2019
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
If you are looking for a tasty, no-nonsense Virginia, this is a good one to try.
Pleasurable Virginie
September 08, 2019
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
First time I tried it, I did the fold & stuff.
Meh.
Went to the break it up technique, which worked much better for me.
Low & slow, it smoked smooth with the classic VA profile you'd expect. Mind you I am not a expert in the Virginia realm, ... Read More
so YMMV; but I found it quite satisfying; my first & steadfast love being Lat-bomb English blends.
Price point makes it a keeper for a change of pace. Read Less
2 Surprises
April 12, 2019
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Has remained reasonably priced and is quite a value in terms of quality. 2nd surprise is that the smoke seems to gear up a notch at mid bowl, with a very satisfying finish.
It will do.
April 01, 2019
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
This is a decent VA flake. Topping is extremely mild and flavor holds fine VA notes. Little one dementional. Found getting through my sample something of a choir. Not bad by any means but I won't order again.
very good flake
March 04, 2019
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
classic.
Very good for mix
February 03, 2019
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
So this a very easy, tasty, smoke, i found it mild or les than that, to have a very nice taste, but nothing develops from there, nothing evolves. It actually is too mild for my taste and after a while it gets boring, I also think it is too young. But... Read More
that good virginia taste pops at the first spark so i love it for "in bowl" mixtures, where it stays on top. I allways have a jar of it around. 3,5 stars alone, 5 stars in mix Read Less
Simply good…
January 20, 2019
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
I like it. I've had better Virginia, but this is nice! Good simple Virginia, with some sweet, floral, hay notes.
unabashed
December 18, 2018
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
I bought this in order to try a straight Virginia. Not my speed of Tobacco, but clearly a good example of Virginia is. Nothing off putting and nothing bad about it at all.
simply good and sweet
September 08, 2018
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
pleasant everyday smoke with good panorama view
Excellent
September 01, 2018
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Came a bit moist so I dried it out for a few hours. Bag note of straight Virginia. Lots of grassy notes. Flavour is very mild, straight unadulterated Virginia. Grassy, earthy and some lemon. No bite and a cool burn. I don’t always need to have a comp... Read More
lex smoking experience, sometimes i just need a good honest Virginia. Highly recommended. Read Less
Great VA Bulk!
July 19, 2018
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
If you’re a fan of Orlik Golden Slices you’ll really enjoy this blend. Very similarly grassy hay and citrus notes. I highly suggest buying 2oz to sample no matter what. At the price it’s a great bulk to get your cellar stocked up.
Almost a five...
December 15, 2017
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Don't rub this out. Fold it and stuff it in, but don't pack it too tight. Puff gently, and you'll find that it's not too bad. And for the price, it can't be beat, IMHO...
Excellent, mild straight VA flake
October 12, 2017
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
I have smoked this VA flake for years and find it first-rate. It is my regular, daily tobacco. I also find that it cellars well. Recently I opened a 5 lb. box from 2011 and it was superb. If a smoker wants a flake similar to Orlik's Golden Sliced (wi... Read More
thout the Perique) or PS's Luxury Twist Flake (without the aromatic top-note) -and in bulk to boot - this will be an ideal tobacco for you! Read Less
Just Sweet
September 16, 2017
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
It's grassy, a bit more body than the 707, but just not enough there for me to really want more of it.
What Happened??
March 31, 2017
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
I just tried this one after cellaring for about a year, and I'm not sure what happened in that time, but it lost whatever little flavor it had to begin with. It wasn't very good when it was fresh, but a year later and it was absolutely unsmokable! I ... Read More
couldn't finish a single bowl! I'd already decided I'd never order this one again, but never did I dream that a tobacco would get worse after cellaring! I wonder if anyone else has ever had this experience with any tobacco? It's now only fit to serve as kindling in the fireplace. Weird! Read Less
Good straight virginia.
September 26, 2016
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
잘 만들어진 순수 버지니아이다. 약간의 과일향과 풀향도 좋고 불부침과 유지도 좋다.
그러나 밍밍한 느낌이 있고 단맛이 지나치다.
묵히면 어떨찌 궁금해서 그대로 그리고 보드카 뿌려서 압축해서 1년간 보관해본다.
Great Va flake
August 28, 2016
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
I have been smoking this flake for a lot of years, it is my #1 all day , everyday tobacco. I purchase this flake in 5# bricks from smoking pipes were you will not find a better price, this flake use to be made in Denmark, don't know if it stiill is.... Read More
The flakes are long and wide with the perfect moisture content, so their is no relighting over an over. To me, this is what a pure va flake should be with no loaded down flavors. Just my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Read Less
Not a particularly good flake
March 04, 2016
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
This is undoubtedly my least favorite flake I've tried, having very little flavor at all. Glad I only ordered half a pound! It's not terrible, it's just not good. To dispose of this half pound, I'll have to use it as a blending tobacco, mixing it ... Read More
with other things that have lots more flavor. This is one I'd recommend to pass on, and won't be buying again, that's for certain. Read Less
A great smoke!
January 14, 2014
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
I have no idea why the previous reviewer only gave this a 3.5. It is much better than that. The closest I could compare virginia slices too would be orlik golden slice without the perique (which in my opinion is barely detectable). This is an excelle... Read More
nt virginia with nice hints of sweetness but just right. If it came down to the 2 I would buy this over orlik. Read Less
Sutliff 507-C, a grassy Danish flake / utility smoke
July 22, 2013
Product: Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices Bulk
Flakes are ~7" long and fragile. Also somewhat dry -- but for me that's a good thing. Flavor is mostly grassy with just enough sharpness to scare away amateurs; not terribly sweet; not terribly citrus; and, near the bottom, somewhat ashy tasting. It ... Read More
has a mild and smooth natural tobacco flavor with medium nicotine strength and good whole mouth feel. There may be a bit of top flavor – something dark like anise -- but so faint I can hardly identify it properly. This won't disappoint veteran Va smokers who are looking for an everyday economy flake, but it won't knock your socks off either. Read Less
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