Customer Reviews (12 Total)
Great blend, but I got a better name
August 23, 2022
Product: Presbyterian Reformation 50g
... if you make a bitter old Calvinist a little sweeter, that's called a "United Presbyterian."
Save your money,
August 24, 2022
Product: Presbyterian Reformation 50g
I can’t actually believe that whoever put this foul concoction together actually thought it fit for a pipe! The tin says‘Danish flavourings are added to…’, if by that they mean a tin note like a two day old diaper and a taste like said diaper in a ch... Read More
emical fire they were spot on but any claim to cocoa and mocha is a downright lie. I can’t even finish my first bowl, it’s going in the trash where it belongs. Read Less
Missed it by that much
August 15, 2022
Product: Presbyterian Reformation 50g
I received this in the mail this morning. Presbyterian is my top favorite and I was really interested in trying this version. This tastes like any number of drug store aromatics I've tried over the years. The topping overshadows the entire blend. I c... Read More
an't taste the tobacco hardly at all. The topping leaves a little bit of a chemical aftertaste. What a disappointment. I have my my doubts about aging improving this blend but I'll try it anyway. This isn't worthy of the Presbyterian name as far as I'm concerned. So many different ways this could've been better. Sutliff missed the mark. Read Less
Sweet like God's Grace
September 10, 2022
Product: Presbyterian Reformation 50g
Like prayer, it's a sweetness to enjoy any time. The aroma is sure to please. All the sweetness of a goopy aromatic without the overbearing "goopy" sensation on the tongue. Mellow and relaxing with the tobacco's natural flavor intact, albeit in the b... Read More
ack seat...
I would recommend this one to anybody in the aromatics camp, sure, but I would especially recommend it to a newcomer. Its flavor would be very appealing to someone who's just starting out on tobacco. Very dessert-like with minimal nicotine presence...
I'm surprised the reviews aren't so favorable so far. Sure, it's not got a very complex flavor profile, but it still makes for a swell time. Read Less
nice change of pace
March 27, 2023
Product: Presbyterian Reformation 50g
Tin note of chocolate, apricots and a nutty like vanilla. Tobacco is a flake of marbled brown, tan and dark brown. Moisture content is great. Rubs out with a little effort. Burns slow with a few relights. The strength is mild to medium and nic is mil... Read More
d. Flavoring is mild, with notes of cocoa, fruit and vanilla. The cocoa and vanilla dissipate quickly after initial light. The berry/apricot fruity flavor remains in the background throughout the smoke. Taste is medium and mostly consistent, with notes of cocoa, vanilla, nuts, sugar, berries/stone fruit, spices, earth, herbal/floral, dry, acidic, molasses, orange peel/zest, peaty vegetation, wood, grassy, a tangy fermented fruit background note, and a peppery retro. Burley is leading with Oriental/Turkish, Virginia and Flavoring supporting. Room note is pleasant to tolerable, and aftertaste is good. Read Less
I don't get it
January 13, 2023
Product: Presbyterian Reformation 50g
Not sure what all the fuss is about. I think people like it because they're supposed to. They assume, "well it's a very longstanding and much-loved recipe so it MUST be good". But it's not that great. It's just okay. Good virginias, not much else goi... Read More
ng on. Smells great, but sort of a letdown. Read Less
Reformation is the Golden grail
December 22, 2022
Product: Presbyterian Reformation 50g
Absolutely beautiful blend. The dark fruit and chocolate notes are just enough, sweet on the finish. Oily a little on the tongue, but I like that so it’s a plus. Smokes well and has no problem burning all the way down to white ash. If you have not tr... Read More
ied it get a tin if you can. I’ll be ordering as much as I can. Read Less
I was so excited for this one...
September 17, 2022
Product: Presbyterian Reformation 50g
...But it left me wanting. It's not bad. I actually like the topping. Brunello Flake is one of my favorite blends and this one falls a bit short for them being so similar. I do think this will benefit from age, so I haven't counted it out yet.
It's ok
September 06, 2022
Product: Presbyterian Reformation 50g
It's ok
good but was expecting better
August 30, 2022
Product: Presbyterian Reformation 50g
let me start but saying that presbyterian is one of my all time favorite smoke. I was very excited for this new release the flake are tender and hold well but the smell hit you with a kind of chemical dentist like smell which surprised me a lot from ... Read More
them, my first smoke was alright nothing more. the taste is very generic, is the best way to say it. a little disappointed Read Less
Product: Presbyterian Reformation 50g
I am going to be completely honest, did not liked it at all. The Mocha side of it is the sweet anisé smell to it as like the splash of Sambuca added to a cup of Espresso and Cocoa side of it, the little marshmallows people put into a cup of hot choc... Read More
olate. Too Aromatic, reminds me of bubble gum. Read Less
Buy it for the tin or don’t bother
August 23, 2022
Product: Presbyterian Reformation 50g
Presentation: well-formed flakes measuring approximately 1.5 x 2.75“ and very thin. Pliable but not especially moist. Good.
Tinned scent: mellow, sweet without being cloying, cocoa followed by fruit, perhaps cherry, but not citrus or banana.
Prepar... Read More
ation: I chose to smoke an entire flake (approx. 4g). I rubbed it out thoroughly but did not give it any additional time to dry. My first time trying a blend, I usually prefer to take it as they give it (though I usually end up preferring it somewhat drier). It was not difficult to light and only required occasional rights. With more focus, it might have only needed two or three over the course of the bowl.
First third: flavor wise, this bears absolutely no relation to standard Presbyterian mixture, any more than the lesbian Reverend at the nearest mainline Presbyterian Church bears to old Scottish firebrands like John Knox. That being said, I will judge it on its own merits. Little or no bite. Mild burley with hints of toasted oats mildly sweetened with chocolate syrup.
Mid-way: fairly similar to cube cut burly, except for less tobacco and more generic “aromatic chocolate”. However, it has less sharpness than cube cut burley, which is an okay trade off. There is more flavor than, say, Lane 1Q, but less than 7 Seas. The room note is decidedly pleasant. I doubt this would offend anyone.
Finish: just a little acrid toward the end. Nothing gross.
Reflections: I confess that I bought this primarily for the tin art, and had very low expectations. As such, my expectations were entirely met. It is a mediocre aromatic and a poor blend for those whose preference is towards full flavored tobacco.
Throughout my bowl, I kept forgetting I was even smoking. Positively, that means it was not offensive but neither was it interesting. For the person who smokes all day, perhaps that is appealing. But similar (and better) blends can be had for much better prices.
Score: 5/10 - buy it for the tin, or don’t bother.
1 - abomination (Billy Budd)
2 - gross (Bayou Morning)
3 - poor or very boring (Lane 1Q)
4 - some notable flaws
5 - utterly mediocre. But at least not offensive.
6 - enjoyable but forgettable (London Mixture)
7 - very good - Presbyterian Mixture, Embarcadero, Night Cap
8 - “hey, this is great!” - Escudo, five-year aged OGS, Capstan Blue, Solani Burley
9 - RDF, Saint James Flake, Blairgowrie
10 - never had it Read Less